Posted by Jim Koch on November 17, 19102 at 11:51:13:
In Reply to: specific wreck information request posted by Peggy Large on November 10, 19102 at 12:39:03:
: I am looking for information on specific wrecks and am very interested in any information available.
: Duncan City lost off Garden Island Lake Michigan ca 1884 (built under the name J. Heisman in 1852 and from about 1856 to 1873 known as John Rae)
: Helen Mar 38 ton schooner know in existance in 1851 out of Hamilton Ontario
: Andrew Stevens built in ca 1855 by White in Hamilton Ont.
: P.E. Young, schooner scow blown up in Toronto Harbour ca 1900
: Belvidere another small schooner about 29 ton known out of Hamilton Harbour in 1866.
: Anges known out of Wellington Square (Burlington) in 1861.
: Baltic, wrecked on shore at Oswego ca 1894.
: If anyone can give any details on any of the above ships it would be greatly appreciated. Of greatest interest is the Duncan City (John Rae) in Lake Michigan. If there are divers out there who have seen the wreck I would love to hear from you.
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Peggy,
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Two spellings are given for the Helen Marr. Below is all of the information we have posted on our Lake Erie Shipwreck web site. Just out of curiosity, why are you looking for information on these widely scattered wrecks? Most people are interested in one particular vessel or in a specific geographic area.
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188 Helen Marr: Schooner bound for Buffalo from Sandusky via Cleveland sank to its upper spars in a violent storm 10/4/1840 off Point Abino, Ontario. All seven hands were lost in the wreck including Captain Judah Welles Ransom [1784-1840] who "was a captain and one of the pioneer navigators on the lakes, being the first to sail the upper lakes and return". Also on board were relatives of the captain, two cousins, Joseph and John Ransom. The vessel's galley, barnacle and compass were recovered from the Niagara River between Buffalo and the falls and identified before the rest of the wreck was located. The Helen Marr carried a cargo of 5,000 bushels of wheat at the time of the wreck. The vessel may have later been raised and rebuilt as a steamer. The above information was provided by Mike Ransom and Mike Spears.