Posted by steve to jaime Casas on November 18, 19100 at 13:22:19:
In Reply to: Re: The Law, The DNR, The Truth posted by Jaime Casas on September 28, 19100 at 02:38:33:
: : I believe all of the states surrounding the Great Lakes have adopted some form of law to protect shipwrecks. The Federal Government also has laws which govern shipwrecks.
: : The DNR in Michigan, Wisconsin and Illinois claim ownership to virtually all of the wrecks on the bottom lands of the lakes. Michigan in a further attempt to protect shipwrecks created underwater preserves. The States claim their right of ownership from the 1987 abandoned shipwreck act.
: : The truth is that Federal law prempts state law. The 1987 abandoned shipwreck act was not a new law but a clarification of the 1953 Submerged Lands Act. The 1953 Submerged Lands Act did not specify whether the states owned non-natural objects such as shipwrecks that rested on or within submerged lands. The 1987 Abandoned Shipwreck Act(ASA)was passed by Congress to clarify that title to only certain shipwrecks be transferred to the state. The ASA transfers title of an abandoned shipwreck to the state in which the shipwreck is found if that shipwreck is (1)embedded in submerged lands of a State; (2)embedded in coralline formations protected by a State on submerged lands of a State; or (3) on submerged lands of a State and is included in or determined eligible for inclusion in the National Register. Admiralty and maritime laws of salvage and finds still are applicable to all other abandoned shipwrecks. State laws which are prempted by Federal law were invalid from their inception. This brings up another interesting question, are any of the abandoned shipwrecks in Michigan's underwater preserves really protected?
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: Who gets to define what embedded means? Every wreck I have dove on has at least been partially embedded in the bottom. Also, I don't claim to know anything about law, but if Congress passed the ASA, then isn't it federal as opposed to state law? [Embedded]? irrelevant! You are argueing with the archaeolist how much your
fine will be, not thet you have Title. Wake up.
;;;;;.Do not argue how much, argue WHO has
TITLE (Not wrech title, no) to your BIRTH
CERTIFICATE. Are you a subject of the king,
or are you a SOLE CORPORATION on equal footing?
THen, change THIS to a AGGREGATE CORPORATION,
remove the infernal PLEDGE, cease to be the
TOBY-the-slave by collateralized addision
contracts. Write your own terms, freeman.
Either you have respect, or you insist in being
a subject "to taxation" plantation property,
to generate industrial income to the King.
Are you free, or are you confussed?
Are you "fool" of beer and Pizza, or are you
a CREDITOR, if not then in law as well, but in
the eyes of the COURT. Diver or not.
-----Do you need assistance in your
Redemption package? Can you think in terms of a
CREDITOR, or this is not possible on your part?
steve