Re: Whitefish Pt. (MI)

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: : : Ric makes a good point with the white marker with blue stripe. I questioned this issue with the Mich. Underwater Preserve Council, a few years ago. I was told that the MUPC has a letter from the U.S. Coast Guard, 9th District office in Cleveland (9th district is in charge of all the US waters of the Great Lakes), authorizing the placement of the markers in and around the designated preserves. These markers are required to be white with a blue stripe (the Tide bottles don't cut it). The latest navigational charts for lower Lake Huron, also have a notation, where there are underwater preserves, to watch for shipwreck moorings (this may also be the case for rest of the lake charts, but I have not checked it out). : : : Chris Roth : : : : : : : Gentlemen: : : : : You're both right. Tim may want to take a boating safety course. The state has it's own marking system (remember the orange markers?). : : : : The Federal Govt does mark our water ways.. but individual sheriff departments are also responsible for their counties. : : : : Special mooring buoys are set on wrecks to protect them from damage. These blue and white markers are approved the Coast Guard and usually set by volunteers who care about our underwater resources. I appreciate their efforts to protect/promote our maritime collection. : : : : : : : : : In response to the question of liability for buoys : : : : : : : and not wanting to be held liable, stated at the : : : : : : : end of this post: These buoys are in state sanctioned underwater preserves. The Coast Guard knows about them and approves of them. There is no individual liability (duh!). The reason they are late getting out is because the preserves are volunteer, uncompensated committees. They are certainly underfunded (if they are funded at all) and often lack sufficient volunteers and resources to get the buoys out. Some preserves have more manpower and resources than others and can get the buoys out sooner than other. : : : : : : : : : Thanks for the report. I don't know what's going on with the "dive industry" in Michigan. I here the Straits are still not buoyed. The charter companies are losing a ton of money because nobody wants to take some initiative. I'd do it myself if I had a boat. I have volunteered to do the diving for both Whitefish and the Straits but no one has called. I have a freind in the Soo who fills tanks. His name is Steve Frederick and his number is 906 632 3068. You'll have to make an appointment, but he's easily available. : : : : : : : : : Mike : : : : : : : : : Kinross Michigan : : : : : : : : Maybe it is because nobody wants the liability of placeing a menace to navigation (ie bouy) without a Coast Guard permit think about it do you want to be held liable Tim : : : : : : The person that places a bouy or any other fixed floating object on a navigable waterway without a permit and a Coast Guard notice to mariners is fully 100 percent responsible for any damage to any vessel caused by these bouys.preserve or not.check out the law before you give out to much more bad info Tim : : Bingo Cris gets a a+ the bouys I am refering to are the freon can types that a friend had the miss fortune of tangling with in both props mutiple damage to both shafts and transmission law suit is still pending let you know the outcome. also the volunteers that place bouys in preserves should get there own lawyers opinon before hand about liabilty, even though the Coast Guard approves the placement. until there location is documented ie: charts and notice to mariner bulletines these are virtually unknown menaces to navigation and I do not believe the Coast Guard will except the liabilty as they did not place them. my last word on the subject Tim : Buoys, shackles, line, chain, etc. are wearing out. The state promised some money to replace aging buoy systems but changed its mind after a proposal was submitted. Currently, the Great Lakes Diving Council is working on legislation that would bring plenty of cash to buoy the dive sites.

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