Re: Bill-13 assets, subrogation

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: Shipwreck Management? How do you want to disguise it? What other seduction you WILL accept? : The 1812 war and others, was a physical war to overcome the greedy Banksters, the Rothchilds, others, the European Elite holding Canadians hostage by their economic strings as "slaves by appraisal", and consent of the pledged. The winning of the war reaction, prompted them to enter other "controls", where your property is fully pledged, unless you aquire YOUR immunity from the Pledge by a Title of your own, and has nothing to do with the scrap below, or sensitivity to scrap worshipers, since they are committed subjects, many of them, and some are dedicated Public Servants to the end. : The power struggle over resources, or over SUBJECTS, that are perceived free, and all their properties, is control. Slave v. Master. You guys should look up whose propping up "Jason", the "strawmen" in this deal to you. It is an "offer". You've been had. Realize this: they are ringging your door bell. To pass rules to generate money from SUBJECTS by consent and accent, and by accent obtain the power. It is merely a transfer of power by way of your consent to be a subject of new taxation. The Province does not grab the resources from the Feds. No. The Feds are only an exchange office to "implement" orders. You do not see the whole picture, from the bottom of the quarry were you are now diving at, but look around, do some reasearch. : At the moment, divers have the luxury to snicker and disregard the hard won cases in the Supreme Court, in any Country, mine and yours too, we suffer toguether, but soon there will be a time were law books will be limited to licensed parties only, when this resourse too will not be available to you, at any price of a good or bad attorney, in tens of thousands of dollars to the diver, without recorse. And this day is comming, due to uninformed divers out there, who tread water lightly, seek only skin pleasures. : steve. : Remember: North and South of the pond, or the 1812 war's, THEY have other plans for you in the NEW WORLD ORDER, what is that? The new Order is Money, taxation, and control by pledges, International and Individual pledges, were you as a father of your son, you sold your son to the Elite for "benefits", you gave away by Pledge your son's Birth Certificate to be used as a lien against you to be appraised, to be taxed, for the alleged loan "from the Bank" in to the future benefits granted, and they granted a "few" benefits in exchange. Count your blessings, my friend. They will say: You bellong to us. (like property). : : : What a laugh, read my last Email and would be ready to concede to my poor spelling. My apology that it was late when I made the post. : : SM : : : Facinating, this issue has been kicked around for months now and is still treated with a remarkable degree of cultural insensitivity. U.S. Supreme Court decisions are what we use to wrap dead fish in when we run out of News Print here. : : : You are not in Kansas anymore. Canada is a sovereign nation with it's own political and judicial system and relevent case law. Bill 13 will come or go as the case may be. In reality, I suspect shipwreck management issues will be a concern for the next decade. The problem will be resolved, and the resolution will be Canadian. This means that even in the worst case senario the chances of having a SWAT team board your boat or shove a machine gun in your face (as it is apparently necessary to do when restoring a six year old to his father's care in the U.S.), enforcing shipwreck legistlation is rather remote. : : : I am amazed that arguments, including case law, are continually forwarded by people who want to be good Americans and enjoy all of their rights and freedoms in Canada. On the south side of the pond I am a guest and I play by the local rules. Noth side your a guess and guess what happens if you don't play by the local rules? Unhappy? you should have tried harder in the war of 1812. : : : Scott : : : Scott : : : : : Well no. : : : : : Both of you have not grasped what Bill 13 is about. The idea that this has anything to do with divers removing anything from shipwrecks is redeculous. It is a power struggle over control of a resource and that is about it. : : : : : Shipwrecks have always been National, in Canada, and that's the rub. From when Canada became Canada shipping, navigation and shipwrecks are part of the domain of the Federal Government, who, interestinly enough, protects the private property rights of the owners. : : : : : Tobby Barrett proposed Bill 13. Tobby Don't Dive! He has "Jason" Jason has a basic SCUBA card, and has actually dove on three shipwrecks! also has, a Job in Mr. Barrett's office and his first razor (he is still getting used to shaving and cuts himself up quite a bit). : : : : : So of course, with this great team of experts they sat down and spent an entire 11 days drafting Bill 13 which is unconstitutional so the Province can grab the resourse from the Feds. : : : : : When Last seen Mr. Barrett had his tail substantialy between his legs and has now engaged in a vain effort to modify his Bill in the hope that he can get enough support from the gullable in the diving comunity to save face. : : : : : Throw the Bum out! : : : : : Scott : : : : : : : : : : : : The diver assets were (are being now) seized and nationalized. All divers are chattell goods. I said ALL divers are just cord-wood, to be used. They want to locate anyone diving, were required to be licensed, as shown by Bill-13. See Exhibit-4. : : : : : : : This is the seizure of the divers industry by means of licensing authority. : : : : : : : I further find that pursuant to case U.S. v. Butler (Supreme Court), 1935 (Exhibit-5) the Supreme Court was correct in striking down the above mentioned Act, are coercion contracts and at the gun point too. They are adhesion contracts made by a dictator, a superior over an inferior. They are under the belligerant capacity of government over enemies. They are not valid contracts. Their "Heritage" sedulously framed, could be broken down, the independence of the individual obliterated by the tirant, and the area under supervision converted into a central socialist government exercising uncontrolled police power throughout the region superseding all local controls over local concerns, including the red-coats clubs they have seduced with bribery. A few dollars here and there, and they have a following, to move this bill ahead, maybe. Some are watching, were is this going? : : : : : : : The "criminal intent" of the Bill-13, just like the copy cat of the Supreme Court case cited, they turned it down flat. The Supreme Court Justices said, in effect: "You're turning the (listed x x forces) into an uncontrolled police state, exercising uncontrolled police power." They further stated: "We further find in the first hundred days of the reign of Roosevelt (in U.S. v. Butler) (now Toby and his socialist party grave robbers) similar seizures by licensing authority were successfully completed and made, with only a couple hundred dead resistors in various sectors, and all natural resouces. : : : : : : : Why would it matter if your sister or brother died, at the hands of a socialist-community-ist, drunk on police power? Would burden others likewise, obliterate all remaining individuality of the subjects. The administrative agencies under the Classification Act, as amended, to fix the compensation of any officers and employees so appointed. (In other words, they have now, the insentive to collect, hunt divers, extort to the maximum, just to pay for the perpetuity of this Toby police state salary, with health and retirements benefits.) : : : : : : : All they need is just a slight approval for a Bill-13 passage, in any form, however truncated, but for how long? : : : : : : : A majority of the people have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. The "Toby Rule" may expand to all civilian other interests, if succesfull here first. If they can pull this stunt on the stupid SCUBA diver, where else can it merge? : : : : : : : They may add some broad powers to meet the emergency in some cases, expand later the same authority he had used for solving the wreck crisis. Now the "wreck" has a crisis. : : : : : : : Waco actions were taken under the War and Emergency Powwer Act of March 9, 1933, as expanded from and creating a presumption that their personal "Heritage Religion" was not standard, not school approved, 80 people died defending the faith, mostly children. : : : : My statement was meant for all shipwreck legislation in general. it is not needed, we can self regulate shipwreck diving within our own power but it's to late for that now, we will have to live with the inevetable goverment regulations in the future before certain groups yell for restrictions and prosecution of wreck divers get your facts straight ALL the facts.

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